Also, I think that post in sirenspull is literally te dumbest fucking piece of shit in the world. And while you've done some dumb shit and pulled it off well, this is not one of them. Please don't ever try something like this again, whether you were enabled or not.
Well, first of all, I'm sorry that anon isn't enabled -- it is now. So if you want to switch to anon instead of your sock account if you have anything else to say, you are more than welcome to.
Secondly, and I'm sorry if this is blunt or rude, but you don't have to tag anything I post, dumb or not. So long as the post does not grievously offend anyone to the point of feeling harassed (and as I play a character who personally doesn't give a shit if he offends anyone, I try very hard to ensure that anyone who tags him understands that IC =/= OOC), I can post whatever I feel like posting. You are not obligated to tag into it or even read it -- you can continue to scroll right past. And if I feel like posting another fun and stupid thing, I can go ahead and do so, because I didn't join Sirenspull to be told what I can and cannot post. I joined to play Crowley, which I'm doing to the best of my ability.
Thirdly, I am going to be a part of a massive game-wide plot in the coming month or two that is going to be seriously depressing and completely wreck havoc on Crowley's character. Before that massive shitstorm happens, I want to have fun and do fun things before I send him away to the effective slaughterhouse. If you want to participate in that gamewide plot once the OOC notice is up and everything is mod approved, you are more than welcome to do so. You are also more than welcome to tag my more serious posts as I make them.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the post, but quite frankly, there are a lot of posts on the network that I couldn't give two shits about, but I don't run around commenting to everyone's HMD about it telling them to post things I like, because there are going to be a lot of things that I don't like or I think are stupid. But then I remember that this is a roleplaying game and I really don't care what people do so long as it makes them happy and they're having fun.
Tl;dr -- sorry bro, but I'm gonna keep having fun, and I'm not holding a gun to your head and telling you to read or participate if you don't want to. :\
If you had offered me actual criticism, I would have given you something else. As the first thing I woke up to this morning was "this post was the dumbest fucking piece of shit in the world", I didn't really think you would've responded to anything but a blunt "well, don't tag it".
This has nothing to do with your characterization. I honestly think that is so spot on that I have to wonder if you're an annoyed Scottish demon behind the keyboard, and you're just doing this to mess with our minds, because I can see Crowley doing something like that. :) This is more about cast frustrations and you're not the only one about to get it, so please don't think I'm singling you out.
I'm getting very frustrated with playing Ellen. I have PMed, IMed, and emailed the entire cast. About the only thing I haven't done is give out my phone number (something I'm unwilling to do for obvious reasons). Now, I can understand an email/IM going astray. But all three?
You've said before that Crowley wouldn't have much to do with Ellen. That's fine. However, I cannot see him passing up the chance to at least talk to her if only to find out where she stands on the revitalization of Hell, or because she is the new bartender at Mugshots - and Crowley setting out bounties I can sorta see?
I'm honestly at the end of my rope. Plus, I found out about a "cast discussion" on plurk via acj. I know what it was about, but it's very disconcerting to not even be dropped a PM with "Hey, this was brought up. Do you have any thoughts?"
I've rambled enough and thank you for taking the time to read/consider this. Again, I do adore your Crowley.
Well, for starters, thank you for the compliments. I spend a lot of time and effort on Crowley's characterization and to hear that I am doing it right is comforting.
As for the cast discussion, it was basically a collective agreement that the cast is somewhat inclusive and ways to strive toward it. It wasn't a plotting plurk, it was more a case of someone plurked something and I brought up some concerns. I am sorry that you were not notified about it, but it wasn't a planned discussion, and you were not left out of it on purpose. It certainly wasn't my intention to make you feel that way and I apologize. Sometimes PMs do get lost for me, though, so if I do not respond to them within two or three days, I probably did not get the notification.
On Crowley, he doesn't particularly care what Ellen has to say on what he's done with Hell or anything else she has to do. As of his canon point, he has washed his hands clean of the hunting community, and within game, he's done the same thing. He's not really going to go out of his way to speak to someone he doesn't really care about. Should Ellen approach him, he wouldn't ignore her, but he also wouldn't discuss anything of real value with her. She's not one of his trusted associates and honestly, the only thing he knows about her is that she died in Carthage, and he doesn't particularly care that she did. She's just another hunter to him -- no one particularly special. I am sorry if this puts a dent in your CR plans with him, but I can't really force him to go out of what he would do in order to maintain CR. He barely talks to the Winchesters and he has an actual canon relationship with them past a knowledge of their name.
I hope this is helpful and explains some of his in-game actions. If not, I can always explain more.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I made a plurk concerning the thread and how I concur with most of the criticism about me. I have not been active and I was on the brink of dropping until endgame was announced. I decided to stick around to the end. I've been tagging my close CR mainly because forming new CR at this juncture seems silly.
I do find it odd, though, that the amount of vitriol expressed in this thread seems to me to be spanned over a long period of time. My HMD has always been open and I take in any and all criticism. I'm also easily available for contact. So honestly, why suddenly be furious and angry two months to end-game?
To make a long story short -- most of this is correct. I have been inactive and tagging only close CR since end-game was announced. I'm sorry if this has hurt anyone's feelings and I wish everyone the best of luck for end-game.
I do appreciate the compliment and I do thank you for bringing forward what issues that concern me to the table -- like I said in my comment, I do enjoy criticism in all forms, even if it is on Wankgate.
But please avoid using my HMD to tell me to pick sides again. I'm not going to tolerate people acting like roleplaying is a game of schoolyard dodgeball. I'm here to have fun and make friends. If people don't like the friends I've made, then they're more than free to either make their own or be my friend too. The large majority of us are adults -- we should all begin to act like it.
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Date: 2012-08-20 06:29 am (UTC)From:Also, I think that post in sirenspull is literally te dumbest fucking piece of shit in the world. And while you've done some dumb shit and pulled it off well, this is not one of them. Please don't ever try something like this again, whether you were enabled or not.
Seriously. Fucking. Dumb.
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Date: 2012-08-20 02:59 pm (UTC)From:Secondly, and I'm sorry if this is blunt or rude, but you don't have to tag anything I post, dumb or not. So long as the post does not grievously offend anyone to the point of feeling harassed (and as I play a character who personally doesn't give a shit if he offends anyone, I try very hard to ensure that anyone who tags him understands that IC =/= OOC), I can post whatever I feel like posting. You are not obligated to tag into it or even read it -- you can continue to scroll right past. And if I feel like posting another fun and stupid thing, I can go ahead and do so, because I didn't join Sirenspull to be told what I can and cannot post. I joined to play Crowley, which I'm doing to the best of my ability.
Thirdly, I am going to be a part of a massive game-wide plot in the coming month or two that is going to be seriously depressing and completely wreck havoc on Crowley's character. Before that massive shitstorm happens, I want to have fun and do fun things before I send him away to the effective slaughterhouse. If you want to participate in that gamewide plot once the OOC notice is up and everything is mod approved, you are more than welcome to do so. You are also more than welcome to tag my more serious posts as I make them.
I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the post, but quite frankly, there are a lot of posts on the network that I couldn't give two shits about, but I don't run around commenting to everyone's HMD about it telling them to post things I like, because there are going to be a lot of things that I don't like or I think are stupid. But then I remember that this is a roleplaying game and I really don't care what people do so long as it makes them happy and they're having fun.
Tl;dr -- sorry bro, but I'm gonna keep having fun, and I'm not holding a gun to your head and telling you to read or participate if you don't want to. :\
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Date: 2012-08-20 03:02 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)no subject
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Date: 2012-08-23 01:02 pm (UTC)From:I'm getting very frustrated with playing Ellen. I have PMed, IMed, and emailed the entire cast. About the only thing I haven't done is give out my phone number (something I'm unwilling to do for obvious reasons). Now, I can understand an email/IM going astray. But all three?
You've said before that Crowley wouldn't have much to do with Ellen. That's fine. However, I cannot see him passing up the chance to at least talk to her if only to find out where she stands on the revitalization of Hell, or because she is the new bartender at Mugshots - and Crowley setting out bounties I can sorta see?
I'm honestly at the end of my rope. Plus, I found out about a "cast discussion" on plurk via
I've rambled enough and thank you for taking the time to read/consider this. Again, I do adore your Crowley.
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Date: 2012-08-24 03:43 am (UTC)From:As for the cast discussion, it was basically a collective agreement that the cast is somewhat inclusive and ways to strive toward it. It wasn't a plotting plurk, it was more a case of someone plurked something and I brought up some concerns. I am sorry that you were not notified about it, but it wasn't a planned discussion, and you were not left out of it on purpose. It certainly wasn't my intention to make you feel that way and I apologize. Sometimes PMs do get lost for me, though, so if I do not respond to them within two or three days, I probably did not get the notification.
On Crowley, he doesn't particularly care what Ellen has to say on what he's done with Hell or anything else she has to do. As of his canon point, he has washed his hands clean of the hunting community, and within game, he's done the same thing. He's not really going to go out of his way to speak to someone he doesn't really care about. Should Ellen approach him, he wouldn't ignore her, but he also wouldn't discuss anything of real value with her. She's not one of his trusted associates and honestly, the only thing he knows about her is that she died in Carthage, and he doesn't particularly care that she did. She's just another hunter to him -- no one particularly special. I am sorry if this puts a dent in your CR plans with him, but I can't really force him to go out of what he would do in order to maintain CR. He barely talks to the Winchesters and he has an actual canon relationship with them past a knowledge of their name.
I hope this is helpful and explains some of his in-game actions. If not, I can always explain more.
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Date: 2013-02-26 07:12 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)no subject
Date: 2013-02-26 08:59 pm (UTC)From:I do find it odd, though, that the amount of vitriol expressed in this thread seems to me to be spanned over a long period of time. My HMD has always been open and I take in any and all criticism. I'm also easily available for contact. So honestly, why suddenly be furious and angry two months to end-game?
To make a long story short -- most of this is correct. I have been inactive and tagging only close CR since end-game was announced. I'm sorry if this has hurt anyone's feelings and I wish everyone the best of luck for end-game.
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Date: 2013-02-26 09:28 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)My point is, this is what happens when you associate with scum. Like Nic. :)
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Date: 2013-02-26 10:34 pm (UTC)From:Please avoid missing the point of my HMD again.
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Date: 2013-02-26 10:43 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)But yes, noted. No more dumb links.
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Date: 2013-02-26 10:48 pm (UTC)From:But please avoid using my HMD to tell me to pick sides again. I'm not going to tolerate people acting like roleplaying is a game of schoolyard dodgeball. I'm here to have fun and make friends. If people don't like the friends I've made, then they're more than free to either make their own or be my friend too. The large majority of us are adults -- we should all begin to act like it.